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 Post subject: Re: Frame 2 Orders
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:34 pm 
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Rgr sir.

352nd, how do you want to cooperate with protecting the bombers? Who takes the front/sides/top/imbedded etc? Any prefered location?
I guess altitude is as high as we can get with droptanks as long as we have the bombers in sight.

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 Post subject: Re: Frame 2 Orders
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:44 pm 
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MuskieZZ wrote:
jabo wrote:
Looks good Muskyz. We missed the Stalkers in frame 1.

Airstart can be turned on for bomber pilots after the fighters launch. If required we are looking at 2000ft airstart to get AI etc formed up.



OK, if given the option, lets go with the 2K airstart. We need it FIRST though as the fighters wont be lifting until T+30 or so.

That combined with Dawgers spawn point at 10,x would allow the buff to climb and form OTW to Iwo where the fighters can roll at t+0 to grab and meet the buffs.

Late join buffs could get the 20k airstart directly over Iwo.

Just my recommendations from a fighter puke...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:52 am 
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Well, right now I am assuming no (or small 2K) airstart for the frame. Too late to change the timing.

Also, changing load-out to (40) 500lb bombs.

Gums, what is the pickle command and salvo so we can get them all out?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:01 am 
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Robert wrote:
352nd, Any prefered location?
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Out front "sweep". 5 thousand feet PLUS higher than the buffs (whatever altitude that happens to be) As I type this both the buff launch location and altitude are unknown to us as is our launch altitude. That makes testing time and altitude at the RP rather difficult. (Testing IN the S3 Arena for these parameters was accomplished yesterday and scrapped due to comments on the General Boards today. At present, all is unknown)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:20 am 
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dewolf wrote:
5 thousand feet PLUS higher than the buffs (whatever altitude that happens to be) As I type this both the buff launch location and altitude are unknown to us


Wolf,
As posted in the orders, the buffs are shooting for 30K. the picture shows the route.

Am I missing something? Please let me know.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:21 am 
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MuskieZZ wrote:
dewolf wrote:
5 thousand feet PLUS higher than the buffs (whatever altitude that happens to be) As I type this both the buff launch location and altitude are unknown to us


Am I missing something? Please let me know.


There have been at least two launch location proposals for the B-29s and at least two different launch altitudes. These items "may" effect the buffs arrival time and altitude at the RP. With a RP time of T+65 we must plan for endurance for the remaining portion of the mission. The amount of fuel and the time to be at the proper altitude at the appointed time under Event conditions is what we have not been able to test as the conditions IN the S3 Arena heretofore have not been those that will be present during the Event. (We did complete testing under the conditions IN the S3 Arena and subsequently learned that conditions through the end of the week were NOT REFLECTIVE of Event conditions.)
Other than that, we can hit 30 thousand feet and 65 minutes to your stated RP and fly your specified route. Should your altitude or RP location vary due to conditions in the Arena, I'm sure we will be able to accommodate any request that you make.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:06 pm 
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Yes, please go with the 2000 feet airstart for the bombers. We'll adjust for the RP.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:01 pm 
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I see the planned target alt being 30 K and wanted to mention the rules indicate heavy clouds at 28 K and above so we will need to adjust at some point if we have any hope of hitting targets.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:59 pm 
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I am having a major melt down with my computer. I can't get warbirds, email, team speak or even an Internet browser to work. I am on my wife's tablet and can only leave this message. Please let the squad know that one of the St experienced players will have to coordinate the mission to F71. I will be resetting computer back to factory settings and I am not sure if I will make it to S3. Jump on DR channel and please let me know who is available. Thanks


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:05 pm 
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Sorry Wolf I see what you mean.
I am always going that the buffs will up from Iwo at t+0 and loop south and meet the fighters at 30k.

If we get a 2k air start everything still remains the same. With the heavier load we may be a little lower but I will try to continually call out on the green channel.

I am not planning a tack channel. I plan on flying lead until shot down.


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