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 Post subject: radar question
PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:55 pm 

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When I turn the radar on and off in the PDF of the map it looks like it is a 10 mile reach from the center of the circle if the grids are 20 miles. I would think if the dar can reach 20 miles. It should be 20 miles from the center of the circle.

Please let me know how I am seeing this wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: radar question
PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:46 pm 
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Your latter description is how it should be. I had a similar confusion when I CO'd the first time in BoH. Unless the rules say different radar range is the radius. So a 20mi Dar should have a 40mi diameter.


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 Post subject: Re: radar question
PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:22 pm 
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•Radar – 20 mile radius, coloured dots, inflight arrow. Minimum alt is 150 ft.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:38 pm 

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dewolf wrote:
•Radar – 20 mile radius, coloured dots, inflight arrow. Minimum alt is 150 ft.


So does this mean the PDF is wrong? I don't doubt what the rule says and I am not doubting what the PDF says.

A circle with a 20 mile radius should have a 40 mile diameter like Zinhwk stated. If the circle in the PDF is right, then the radar is a 10 mile radius.

Just looking for clarification so I can look for dar holes.


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 Post subject: Re: radar question
PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:52 pm 
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Doc:
Congrats for such a thorough review of all the available documents! Either the Rules are "wrong" or the PDF graphic representation is. What is "interesting" is how it works. The ranges that are shown in the PDF are what we see, radar wise, while playing the game. With a "proper" 40 mile radar diameter, there would not have been the "holes" in radar coverage that were experienced during Frame 4. "Best Guess" is that what is shown on the PDF is what we get.

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 Post subject: Re: radar question
PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:06 pm 
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Doc I'll have a dtf for you with available Dar coverage. In my short experience the circles have been spot on in the in game map


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:52 am 
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Doc, attached is the DTF file.

As you can see, closing F19 did diddly, and F200 will be a problem child for us. I should also note that I did an exhaustive search, radar is pretty much only located within the vicinity of the fields. I even reconned the "Coastal Dar" and unless it is some form of donkey dar, it doesn't exist as noted. To answer your question Doc, the PDF is inaccurate at best:

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For those with saving problems, here is the txt form:

.mapclear

#Color table

.strsto black 0 0 0 255
.strsto blue 0 0 255 255
.strsto blue-green 64 128 128 255
.strsto brown 128 64 0 255
.strsto cyan 0 255 255 255
.strsto gold 243 232 12 255
.strsto gray 128 128 128 255
.strsto green 0 255 0 255
.strsto green-lite 128 128 0 255
.strsto greent 65 120 40
.strsto orange 255 128 0 255
.strsto pink 255 128 255 255
.strsto purple 255 0 255 255
.strsto red 255 0 0 255
.strsto white 255 255 255 255
.strsto yellow 255 255 0 255

.strsto F21 759602 127006
.strsto WP1 755604 99818
.strsto F221 709793 164621
.strsto IP 992868 614792
.strsto F190 1047465 617792

#Dar 20mi radius (ft)
.strsto radar 105600

#Active Emitters
.strsto F2 918794 15037
.strsto F3 1135114 102027
.strsto F9 1282597 183391
.strsto F10 1057759 91285
.strsto F18 1020246 299658
.strsto F20 1249453 487152
.strsto F178 1182090 649456
.strsto F190 1051038 616412
.strsto F200 987940 456740
.strsto F230 1213107 435146
.strsto F235 1125681 347745
.strsto F236 1288927 97184

.strsto R249A 1108068 455428
.strsto R249B 1108272 456473
.strsto R250A 929948 100645
.strsto R250B 930054 100202

.mapcolor @red@
.mapcircle @F2@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F3@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F9@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F10@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F18@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F20@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F178@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F190@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F200@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F235@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F236@ @radar@
.mapcircle @R249A@ @radar@
.mapcircle @R249B@ @radar@
.mapcircle @R250A@ @radar@
.mapcircle @R250B@ @radar@


#Knights Route
.mapcolor @blue@
.mapline @WP1@ @F221@
.mapline @F221@ @IP@
.mapcolor @purple@
.mapline @IP@ @F190@
.mapcolor @green@
.mapline @F190@ @F21@

%%


EDITED W/ HAWK'S NEW ROUTE FOR DOWNLOAD
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Attachments:
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 Post subject: Re: radar question
PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:05 am 

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Thanks Zin ... We should have a DTF 101 class so more of us know how to do that.


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 Post subject: Re: radar question
PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:44 am 
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Ok here is the numbers for the change of the route. I will post the picture of the route tomorrow.

Lift:

T+00 F214
T+12 F216
T+28 4x
T+40 6x (Level 15k)
T+57 TOT (Drop and run
RTB F182

Here is the DTF with Zinhawks DTF for the Radar

.mapclear

#Color table

.strsto black 0 0 0 255
.strsto blue 0 0 255 255
.strsto blue-green 64 128 128 255
.strsto brown 128 64 0 255
.strsto cyan 0 255 255 255
.strsto gold 243 232 12 255
.strsto gray 128 128 128 255
.strsto green 0 255 0 255
.strsto green-lite 128 128 0 255
.strsto greent 65 120 40
.strsto orange 255 128 0 255
.strsto pink 255 128 255 255
.strsto purple 255 0 255 255
.strsto red 255 0 0 255
.strsto white 255 255 255 255
.strsto yellow 255 255 0 255

#Dar 20mi radius (ft)
.strsto radar 105600

#Active Emitters
.strsto F2 918794 15037
.strsto F3 1135114 102027
.strsto F9 1282597 183391
.strsto F10 1057759 91285
.strsto F18 1020246 299658
.strsto F20 1249453 487152
.strsto F178 1182090 649456
.strsto F190 1051038 616412
.strsto F200 987940 456740
.strsto F230 1213107 435146
.strsto F235 1125681 347745
.strsto F236 1288927 97184

.strsto R249A 1108068 455428
.strsto R249B 1108272 456473
.strsto R250A 929948 100645
.strsto R250B 930054 100202

.mapcolor @red@
.mapcircle @F2@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F3@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F9@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F10@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F18@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F20@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F178@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F190@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F200@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F235@ @radar@
.mapcircle @F236@ @radar@
.mapcircle @R249A@ @radar@
.mapcircle @R249B@ @radar@
.mapcircle @R250A@ @radar@
.mapcircle @R250B@ @radar@

.strsto F214 48035 533300
.strsto F126 205201 605139
.strsto F190 1047465 617792
.strsto F182 895558 582265

.strsto radar 52800

.mapcolor @blue@
.mapline @F214@ @F126@
.mapcolor @purple@
.mapline @F126@ @F190@
.mapcolor @green@
.mapline @F190@ @F182@
.mapline

.mapcolor @red@


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:51 am 

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Looks good hawk ... I should have orders out tomorrow


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