Frame IV CO checking in

dawger · **Joined:** Tue May 13, 2014 9:25 pm **Posts:** 661

zinhwk wrote:

Just spewing thoughts out in an incoherent manner....

According to MA chatter the bomber guys think they done did very well, kudoing the escorts yada yada, not realizing how much we didn't attack them. We've stonewalled the northern route so it seems on face value they would try up the gut again. Saying this frame plays out similar and we hold the A-8s. LF 6 has the numbers to shed a few R6s to test for BT effectiveness. The other 109s roll in on escorts, the usual shtick, but in the process, and well in advance of the 190s, some R6s make runs on buffs. Mini shooters if you will. If they are far more killable (unlikely at BT 1.5) then we focus on the humans. If not, the 190s skip through like last frame. Hopefully we can appeal to jabo's sense of reasoning and BT lowers for Frame V. Then we have our heaviest hitters at the most opportune time. Sun Tzu critical mass and all that.

As the guy who cleaned up the bomber hitmaps and in light of other changes in the heavy bomber DM, I will state that we don't need to test the BUFFTUFF settings.

At 1.5, the only POSSIBLE one pass kill is a Pilot Kill and it will be difficult. The kill box for the pilot is smaller than it was in Frames 1 and 2 and they won't die as easy as before.

Here is your briefing if you plan to attack human bombers with BuffTuff above 1.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv2Mx5T5r7M

drdart · **Posted:** Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:25 pm

dawger wrote:

Here is your briefing if you plan to attack human bombers with BuffTuff above 1.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv2Mx5T5r7M

Mission was accomplished.

dawger · **Joined:** Tue May 13, 2014 9:25 pm **Posts:** 661

drdart wrote:

dawger wrote:

Here is your briefing if you plan to attack human bombers with BuffTuff above 1.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv2Mx5T5r7M

Mission was accomplished.

If you recall, it only "appeared" the mission was accomplished. The Deathstar was only wounded.

zinhwk · **Joined:** Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:42 pm **Posts:** 392

Wasn't hoping for a one pass kill, that is about as dumb as asking for a one pass field closure all by my lonesome. Getting shafted mid series is nothing new for the axis in this scenario. I'm asking because I don't know, have you tested your DM in conjunction with BT? I k ow its not suppose to have BT with it. Jabo is not going to change setting this close to a frame. Right now we need to show him we have to give your work a fair shake. It would be better if we didn't have to but if we can kill them at 1.5, or not, we should try instead of throwing a fit about.

dawger · **Joined:** Tue May 13, 2014 9:25 pm **Posts:** 661

zinhwk wrote:

Wasn't hoping for a one pass kill, that is about as dumb as asking for a one pass field closure all by my lonesome. Getting shafted mid series is nothing new for the axis in this scenario. I'm asking because I don't know, have you tested your DM in conjunction with BT? I k ow its not suppose to have BT with it. Jabo is not going to change setting this close to a frame. Right now we need to show him we have to give your work a fair shake. It would be better if we didn't have to but if we can kill them at 1.5, or not, we should try instead of throwing a fit about.

An unfortunate aspect of volunteering is you get to see the actual numbers driving the game. It is a computer program driven by math.

Beaver · **Posted:** Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:42 pm

Speaking of which is the better aircraft, we have a real division in our squad, some guys want the 109, some prefer the G6/R6 variant of the 109, but some guys, particularily Wildcat, prefer the 190A4, as he can out dog fight most p51D pilots.

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