S3 Series

MAJOR CHANGE OF PLANS: SEE BELOW

What do you think about this, fellas?

If you were the enemy, wouldn't you be expecting us to change things up in frame 3? What have we "always" done in the last few years? They probably think we'll be "jumping to the north" to fool them in frame 3. So, we give them every indication that that is exactly what we are about to do. However, the bomber strike replays frames 1-2 coming in from behind the front line.

Night Stalkers: (1 full step of a/c needed)
Destroy all 6 radarEms from Amstedam to Leeuwarden. This will signal to the enemy that we'll be bringing the bomber group in from the North and draw their attention there. The strike team will then pull back to a rallying point and prepare to resume attacking remaining shipping targets. It will not be necessary to destroy all of them. As long as they think we are coming in from North, it will be mission accomplished.

DEW, could you have the radars down by T+30? Would that give you all time to get back to base and rearm for attacking ships or other targets? The radar at Rotterdam, of all the radars, it is the most vital. I’ll need you to be prepared to finish off L69, if the bomber group makes it there.

Note: Before, anyone says we don't need to waste time on knocking out Radar, remember it will be a matter of deception. Keep reading please.

Ground Assets Defense: 23rd FG (2 steps) and 4th FG (3 steps)
During the entire frame, these fighter squads patrol our targets to prevent the enemy from getting to our bridges, fields, and C47s. These 6 steps of fighters continue to patrol the area to kill as many Ju88s and 190s as they send into us. There will be a lot of ground to cover, but let’s make sure we spread our forces out and not bunch ourselves up in any one area.

Bomber Support
Once the bomber groups are ready to head to targets, the 352nd (4-steps) will land, rearm, refuel and head to the RP.

Plan A: Bombers hit L56, L55, L69
The bomber group ingresses a third time from behind the lines at 27K. Then, the group heads to L56 and L55. If things look good, we continue up to L69. This will be our “Plan A”. We drop remaining ords on it and if anything is left standing, the Night Stalkers, who will be conducting operations in the North Sea shipping area, can be called upon to finish it off.

Plan B: Bombers hit L56, L55, and target of opportunity L53 (or just land at L19)
If things look too hot up North, we’ll turn the bombers around and bring them home in the South.

Net Effect
The initial activity in the north will have caused the enemy to fortify that area before the bombers start to ingress from the South, causing them to waste time and fuel. The fighters protecting the ground assets will deny the enemy points and pick up points for killing them.



Basing:

352nd - L27 (For the first 30 minutes, you could assist covering our ground assets. You need to meet bomber group at T+40 at RP.)
NS - M107

4th - L26
23rd - M24

Note: It would be better if we use L26 and the forward TAC fields for basing (L26, T35, T36, T42, T43, and T51). It will put us immediately over the targets we must protect. Please cover our shipping, too.



Bombers:
Nomads / Raiders: Field LAF 1

Aircraft / Loadout Summary:
Plane: B24J
Fuel: 35%
Bombs: 1600lbs x 8
CS: 140

Proposed Time-hack:

T+0 : Take-off and form up
T+23 : WP1 (near SAF20) 21K feet; A/S:158 mph
T+30 : WP2 (over LAF19; Alpha group continues to L56; Bravo group heads to L53)
T+35 : Go level at 25K and cut throttle to 95%
T+40 : RP (between C28 and L26)
T+46 : (West of TAC34, engage CS:140 and climb to 27K at TOT)
T+53 : (NW of TAC45; engage 100% eng. continue climbing to 27K at TOT)
T+58 : IP at the 5,6 cross (West of L56; turn to 82-degrees into L56)
T+68 : TOT L56 (cut throttle to 70% before dropping; then turn to 180-degrees; throttle 95%; CS:140)
T+72 : IP (Turn to 270-degrees to line up on L55 from East)
T+74 : TOT L55 (cut throttle to 70% before dropping; then turn to 360-degrees to L69; throttle 75%)

NOTE: I am having to run time hack up to L69. Therefore, the last part of the time-hack below, would apply for Plan B.

Time-hack continues for Plan B:
T+74 : TOT L55 (cut throttle to 70% before dropping; then turn to 180-degrees; throttle 75%)
T+82 : (East of C59, throttle up to 100%)
T+87 : IP (Turn to 270-degrees to line up on L53 from East)
T+89 : TOT L53 (cut throttle to 70% before dropping; then check VOR to 19 for heading; throttle 75%)
T+115 : Wheels down at L19 (if airspace is clear)

Salute!

So far, so good.

Except for 27K. 25K seems good enough for the ack effects, and makes it easier for form if someone gets outta position as I did Sunday nite!!! Musta missed the turn while taking a pee break, heh heh. Got back in after fighting a pesky LW lite.

Lite support will require great coord if we go with two buff flights.

Gums may be on the road, but will be in a motel Thursday nite and for most of Friday afternoon. Traveling back on Sat, and won't be able to do anything until about 1800 CST.

Gums sends...

Anybody got some suggestions, ideas, comments? IF we go with that plan above, it will require precise timing from everyone. Think we can do it?

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You got it, MADCAT! It's gonna take perfect timing to make this happen the way it needs to happen.

I'd like to know if we could get everyone who wants to help on team speak, tonight. Can we shoot for 8:00 p.m. eastern time?

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Dunno about only 1 step defending. How many have we had so far? In S3 buff tuff is higher, and I'm hesitant wether or not a single step could put a hurt on their buffs. 2 steps can also cover a larger area. The germans scored quite a few points from ground attacks last frame. Otherwise the plan seems interesting

Darryl, 23rd would like a time hacks for the bombers, no sense in showing up to early and the enemy realizes the faint. Obviously we want to show on enemy dar before the bombers do, but not to early. Hate them figure it out and be directed to the buffs.

Salute!

Plan is getting very complicated.

- Buffs can't climb at 140 CS using otto. Model won't let youclimb below 154 IAS or so.
- No need to go above 25K
- No need to use various power settings for the drop except for psychological reasons. 30 or 40 feet/second ain't all that much.

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If we try this, I would like Nomads in the south grope with Arty as lead. We'll help best we can.

Still on the road and not a great connect and such. Plus, I have duties with my patient.

Be back home Sat nite.

Gums sends...

ROBERT:
We have been leaving 2-steps of fighters to protect our ground assets in the first two frames. In the third frame, for the first 40-minutes, there will be 7 steps of fighters protecting our ground assets. Then, 2-steps of 352nd will cut loose and head North to join the 23rd FG at the 5,6x at T+40. It will take them approximately 25-minutes to get there at 29K feet. Ten minutes later (T+50) the next 2-steps of 352nd will RP with the Alpha bomber group and leave the green zone heading to the 5,6x. At T+73, 2-steps of 4th FG will RP with Bravo bomber group to hit L53 to the East. Once Bravo has begun to egress behind the lines at T+100, the 4th FG will resume covering our ground assets. The Alpha group will have arrived at L54 at T+99 (60-miles east of the Bravo group) to make their final drop before turning west for L19. Once they are safely behind the line, the remaining 6-steps of fighters will resume covering ground assets. During the time the bombers are hitting L53/L54, we'll be sending a single Night Stalker in to finish off any remaining targets to close them.

The Germans picked up 30+ points because they were credited 13 bridge spans due to some hardness issue. They may or may not have picked up that many in actuality. It's a risk, for sure.

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Time-hacks have been posted in the first post of this thread. All updates can be found there.

I am looking for the 23rd and 352nd to RP at the 5,6x at approximately T+66. Still working on timing, however.

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