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 Post subject: Frame 5 Orders
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:08 pm 
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Frame 5 Orders

Good old fashion ETO Raid. Oh, wait, Japan. Oh well, same thing. The key is to protect the buffs and big wing the fighters to reduce losses and increase IJ Kills!


Buffs:
F191 – All buff’s (Nomads, Night Stalkers, Dolittle Raiders)
TAC 17
25K Air Start.

Fighters:
F191 or CV – All planes





Strike 1:
All buffs up at T+0 and head to 2,2,5 to merge with the AI Buffs at T+25.
All Lights be at 2,2,5 by T+25 to escort

All lights fly big wing escort of the buffs, form up at 2,2,5. I recommend the 23rd fly high forward, 4th fly high above, AE fly close escort but always support each other and protect the B24’s

Target is (AI) 177 & (Buffs) 179/178. Cool leads Buffs and call out targets

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Strike 2:
All buffs up ASAP and head to 2,2,5 to merge with the AI again at T+120. I may have to delay the AI based on timing. I will fly the route and get times.
All Lights be at 2,2,5 by T+125 to escort
Escort is the same, Please stay together and support each other.

Target (AI) 184, (Buffs) 181

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Jabo - Do these AI and CV routes work?

Jabo - AI ground speed no faster than 235.

Note: Maps have been updated


Changes in Red


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 Post subject: Re: Frame 5 Orders
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:29 pm 
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Muskyz...

you sure you want 179 & 178? I would have expected both ports, 178 is an airfield I think...
Will check for sure at lunch.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:48 pm 
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Muskyz can I add 177 to the AI to hit as they turn to head back out? Reason I ask is that all three groups hitting one city may flatten it pretty much and the second sortie may risk missing some points.

First routine will be at 25,000ft and head to target at T+30. Second routine at T+120. Escorted AI B24s do well.

I expect everyone will be in the F4U4 as its a class above all the other Allied fighters. The IJ will have their hand full with this beast.

Good Plan!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:57 pm 
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Coolon wrote:
Muskyz...

you sure you want 179 & 178? I would have expected both ports, 178 is an airfield I think...
Will check for sure at lunch.


Cool, 178 is the airfield. Was hoping to trap any IJ landing there if we can close it and figure so many B24's hitting 179 is overkill.

Buff Targets:
Sortie #1 - 179/178
Sortie #2 - 181

AI Targets:
Sortie #1 - 177
Sortie #2 - 184


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:02 pm 
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jabo wrote:
Muskyz can I add 177 to the AI to hit as they turn to head back out? Reason I ask is that all three groups hitting one city may flatten it pretty much and the second sortie may risk missing some points.

First routine will be at 25,000ft and head to target at T+30. Second routine at T+120. Escorted AI B24s do well.

I expect everyone will be in the F4U4 as its a class above all the other Allied fighters. The IJ will have their hand full with this beast.

Good Plan!


Jabo Sir-----
#1, can we get a 25K airstart for the buffs at 191? want to be at the same height as the AI
#2, can you start the AI routine right on top of the real buffs? not at T+30 but when cool gets to 2,2,5? Same with the second AI routine?
#3, Target for the AI is 177 the first run. dont understand your comment. Target for the second AI run is 184. Lots of close targets for the AI to hit. If you just run the same script both times, then hit 177 then 184 on the way out both times. That works.

Anything I am missing?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:05 pm 
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jabo wrote:
I expect everyone will be in the F4U4 as its a class above all the other Allied fighters. The IJ will have their hand full with this beast.


I agree that everyone might be in the F4U-4. Thats good but I want everyone to land back at 194. We just lose too many pilots to CV landings and cant afford that. If anyone is smoking they can sure use the CV thats why I want it sent up into the gut of the islands.

I hope we do not see a single CV incident.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:37 pm 

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4FG will fly the F4U4. We should all use 191 for the airstart. Jabo allowed for last two frames at least. Also you stated someone would launch from CVs - who?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:10 am 
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AE's will use the F4U-4's as well but we will lift from CV


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:34 am 
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bombr- wrote:
4FG will fly the F4U4. We should all use 191 for the airstart. Jabo allowed for last two frames at least. Also you stated someone would launch from CVs - who?

will need Jabo to decide. Rules say F4U are from CV's initial launch/


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:17 am 

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We flew F4u1D from 191 last frame and will plan to fly the F4U4 from 191 this time unles JABO changes something.


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