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 Post subject: Re: DISCO'S.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:27 pm 

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would it be possible to alter your route by using a proxy?


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 Post subject: Re: DISCO'S.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:41 pm 
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timos wrote:
would it be possible to alter your route by using a proxy?


Possibly. I have a friend that used to own an ISP and will contact him soon.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:50 pm 
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Some additional info on the topic:

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id- ... oute.html#.

After speaking to my friend he reminded me of a few things from a decade or so ago. There are numerous providers that ISP's purchase bandwidth from to get their customers on the internet. Some are good (and expensive) while others are not so good (and inexpensive). When I worked at 2alpha they bought bandwidth from one of the good ones as the primary transport, and in order to save costs they purchased from one of the not-so-good ones in case of outage of the primary. If memory serves they had weighting algorithms that sent most of the traffic down one pipe, with less down the other.

As you can see in the link above, a customer in Brazil uses an ISP that sends traffic to Europe via Miami which is likely a hub for South & Central America, the Caribbean islands, etc. on the way to the States and then on to Europe. Brazil also has ISP's that have fiber routes direct to Portugal, bypassing the traffic jam in Miami.

The potential exists in the States for an ISP to send traffic via different routes where two people in the same city could be connecting to iEN (in the D.C. area) via different routes. Just guessing that it is less likely coming from the corners. So while someone from St. Louis might have an ISP that gets there via Atlanta and then to D.C., someone else's ISP might go to Chicago first and then to D.C. If Atlanta does in fact have an overloaded router, then the player in St. Louis that routes through Atlanta over DSL might have disconnect issues, while his neighbor that goes through Chicago over cable bypasses the Atlanta router and plays fine.

Coming from Seattle we're all likely going to Denver, then Chicago, then D.C. as routers do try to send you via the shortest route. It wouldn't make sense to go from Seattle, to L.A., to Dallas, to Atlanta, and then to D.C.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:54 am 

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I guess the response to that is more simple.

A couple of time ago WB's changed their server. From the revenue the game make these days I bet they weren't looking for a provider that could reduce lag, but one whom give Ient less cost and thus improving the survivabilitie of the game.

Not critiscizing! Just my theory. I'm really glad that Ient insists on our title.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:08 am 
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Good explanation Tod. Most of the better ISPs do have primary and secondary routes with the secondary being more of an overflow route. Like you said, less expensive and less reliable. When traffic gets high you may have some packets on the primary route and some on the secondary. That's when the individual packets' lag times can be different or some packets can be lost.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:09 pm 
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just ran tracert again twice for consistency

114 ms and 113 ms in 10 hops

3pm Saturday afternoon


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:23 pm 
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bollok wrote:
just ran tracert again twice for consistency

114 ms and 113 ms in 10 hops

3pm Saturday afternoon


How does that work, I would like to test my connection.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:43 pm 
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bring up your command prompt.

1. press windows button
2. type CMD
3. select "command prompt"
4. type tracert 50.22.237.11

watch it generate results.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:27 pm 
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What kind of ping times to other people get?

I get a consistent ping rate to the above server of between 110ms and 115ms in just 10 hops
This is at peak times from London, UK.

It wouldn't surprise me if this was similar (or even better) than some USA based folks achieve.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:40 pm 

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I usually do not have any issues so I assume these numbers are good. I am not sure what all the numbers mean but my highest number is in the 7th hop.

tracert 50.22.237.11

Tracing route to 11.237.22.50.hypernia.com [50.22.237.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms
2 42 ms 27 ms 28 ms cable-mac1.schnny52-ar4003.nyroc.rr.com
3 11 ms 11 ms 8 ms gig8-45.schnny52-rtr001.alb.northeast.rr.com
4 10 ms 15 ms 9 ms rdc-74-76-241-78.alb.northeast.rr.com
5 12 ms 11 ms 13 ms rdc-74-76-243-78.alb.east.twcable.com
6 21 ms 24 ms 18 ms rdc-74-76-241-193.alb.northeast.rr.com
7 37 ms 19 ms 24 ms 107.14.19.26
8 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 107.14.17.218
9 18 ms 17 ms 19 ms 66.109.11.126
10 18 ms 22 ms 18 ms ae7.bbr01.tl01.nyc01.networklayer.com
11 24 ms 24 ms 25 ms ae1.bbr01.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com
12 25 ms 27 ms 29 ms ae0.dar01.sr01.wdc01.networklayer.com
13 29 ms 28 ms 28 ms po1.fcr02.sr01.wdc01.networklayer.com
14 25 ms 27 ms 25 ms 11.237.22.50.hypernia.com [50.22.237.11]

Trace complete.


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