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Robert
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:45 pm |
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Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:09 pm Posts: 620
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Great job all in frame 4. The Allied now are in the lead, and it's time to deal the final blow. For frame 5 Robert and Omega- of the 4th FG will sit in the big chair.
OPERATION: BRONCOS (Codename: Talib XXI)
BASINGS All squads start from the ground at the airfield at Iwo Jima, except the 4th FG which start from the CV's. Preliminary All fighters with droptanks, this might change if we want to have a 1st sortie CAP clean, then refuel and run the bomb run. Conserve fuel please, run a throttle which enables 3 hours of flight if going with tanks.
FIGHTERS * The 23rd FG will fly P-51D's and be the main escort group. They'll help CAP CV's at the start of frame 5, but will then run in with the B-29's, unless ofc all enemy fighters are dead. * The 352nd FG will fly P-51D's. They'll be our flexible group, either defending the CV's from kamikaze attacks or escorting the buffs, depending on how many fighters the enemy has for defence once our bombers run in. * The 4th FG are defending the CV's in F4U-4's.
BOMBERS Will be in B-29's and there will most probably only be time for 1 sortie, so what field(s) do you want to strike? I'm thinking industries around either the 7.7x or the 7.8x as that would enable our P-51D's to get back to our CV's for late frame defence.
THE PRELIMINARY PLAN It will be a 1 sortie mission for the B-29's. We saw last event that even with airstarts it's very hard to squeeze in 2 sorties for the bombers. As such I want the Bombers to hang back for the early part of the frame, waiting for the GO light. The reason I'd like the Buffs to hang back is because I want all our fighters able to protect the CV's against any early IJA raids. It doesn't matter if our bombers arrive at target at T+60 or T+130 as they only have time for one sortie anyway. The P-51D's would launch with droptanks and hover at specified CAP locations, while the F4U's would be scouting in all directions from the CV's for enemy strikes.
Scenario 1: If the enemy tries to catch us pants down with an early strike then all FG's would engage and get rid of their drops. As soon as the enemy raid is neutralized, all P-51D's would rearm at Iwo Jima and get back up asap to escort. When the P-51D's are ready I'll let the B-29's loose on Japan. If the enemy still has a lot of fighters after their raid then all remaining P-51D's would be used as escorts, but if the enemy fighters are reduced in numbers then I'd like to have the 352nd as high CAP to defend the CV's from a kamikaze strike.
Scenario 2: If the IJA doesn't launch a full scale strike like last frame and rather hang back awaiting to interecept our bombers, then the B-29's will move in on target for a normal escorts vs intercept mission like in frame 2. I'd then like to have either the 352nd or the 23rd ready to rush back to the CV in case the enemy launches a delayed CV strike with escorts.
All input is welcome. /Robert XO 4th FG
Last edited by Robert on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:53 am, edited 11 times in total.
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jabo
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:08 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:38 am Posts: 1470
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Not sure you can get AI wingman with an airstart using the new bomber interface. So maybe a take off from Iwo Jima is the best bet. We did it in Frame 2 so know it works.
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Sasquatch
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:16 pm |
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Joined: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:29 am Posts: 230
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The 23rd will fly whatever is needed. We lost some airframes the last go around so we would be in -1D's if you need us in navy blue. I will be unable to attend the last frame but will pass on orders and info to the group for you... (valentines day is also my anniversary and consequently CINCWIFE pulled my wings for that weekend ).
Sasquatch" =sqtc= 23rd Fighter Group CO
"You know you loaded too much fuel only when you see fire"
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Gums
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:36 pm |
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Joined: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:00 pm Posts: 672 Location: Florida
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Salute!
TNX, JABO.
However, we could use less gas and let the buffers figure out how much. The hours we have with the 75% load is stoopid for an S3 when in a buff. This is well known, and the biggest thorn for many moons has been the high fuel flow rate that required us to take more gas than required for the range and such.
PLZ put Gums on record for requesting relief from the gas load and no air start. We'll fly like the old days from IWO and use time for our tactical plan.
The rule of thumb for the B-29 is 5% gas equals about 2,000 pounds of gas for our ordnance. Climb rate for new FM on the Superfort seems close to reality, so that means a coupla hours to get to 20,000 feet, maybe, when with a full load. Just look at the Hiroshima mission profile. Thi may all be historical, but the S3 is only 3 hours, so I feel we could cut some slack for the buffs.
What do you think, Robert???
"God in your guts, good men at your back, wings that stay on - and Tally Ho!"
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MuskieZZ
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:16 pm |
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Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:09 pm Posts: 571 Location: Northern Minnesota
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jabo wrote: Not sure you can get AI wingman with an airstart using the new bomber interface. So maybe a take off from Iwo Jima is the best bet. We did it in Frame 2 so know it works. Jabo, FYI, at the end of the frame when the airstart was fixed (actually at F188), I launched with AI air started.
<S!> MuskyZ Newest member of the 4th
No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. George S. Patton
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jabo
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:25 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:38 am Posts: 1470
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If you can get AI then you can have a 20,000ft airstart out of Iwo.
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Robert
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:52 pm |
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Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:09 pm Posts: 620
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Ok, My plan is almost figured out. Buffers, which mission do you prefer? Alternative 1: Close the AAA base at F139 and then hit the Toyota factory at F51 Alternative 2: Close the Shizuoka factory at F51 and then AAA at F59 Both routes should make sure to enable you a second strike at the target factory on the egress if needed to close it. Are two targets enough or do you want a third? 20mb image hosting<S> /Robert
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