S3 Series

OK, I am going to re-post this here (I had it in the Allied).

So, have we used the B29 in an S3 yet? I thought so but I never have so testing today I was confused.

Is there any way to take off with 75% fuel and (20) 500lb bombs? How about (12) 1600 lb'rs?

With (12) 1000 lb bombs I could do it as long as I left 1 notch of flaps on for a long time. Dont take the flaps off too early or you will go swimming.

Am I doing something wrong?

Couple of notes for the people in the know. I did this all off line in the free flight. There is no way to try in the S3. Iwo has a 10000' start.

This reminds me of the B17 issue we had a short while back where you couldn't take off with 1600lb bombs either. Everything online says the standard load was 20,000lb but no way I could get off the ground with 75% fuel (the min. per the rules).

Thoughts anyone?

500 foot air start just to give you the forward airspeed so you can climb and then we can shoot you down

The primary issue is when offline you need to force the proper S3 flight model to be used. (FL2027)

To do that you must type .fldat fl2027 and see the message "Using FL2027"

Once you do that you will notice a remarkable difference in the B-29 takeoff performance.

The B-29 was subject to a major revision prior to this S3.

I changed the wing incidence angle so that it could actually rotate to a flying angle before a tail strike. I also increased its low speed power so that its acceleration would be much brisker.

Also, in keeping with the B-29 in the real world, the first notch of flaps is extremely important for takeoff and should be left down until 150 mph as in the real airplane. I was very proud that the Warbirds B-29 replicates the real B-29 in sinking if you retract the flaps at too slow airspeed.

However, it looks like the B-29 will have airstarts from Iwo this frame so the bomber guys won't get to experience this new takeoff performance.


Here is a summary of takeoff technique which mirrors the real world procedure.

Set flaps to 25 degrees.

Advance power slowly to 100%, engage Boost 1 (Military) only after 50 mph.

At 90 mph apply enough back pressure to pitch up slightly. Too much pitch before flying speed will slow the acceleration.

The airplane will fly itself off the ground. Once airborne, hold minimum climb angle for maximum acceleration and retract the gear.

Accelerate to 195 mph as rapidly as possible, retracting the flaps above 150 mph (170 mph is ideal).

Once 195 mph is reached, reduce power to 100% and climb at 195 mph.

I will work on a short instruction film on all of the above to post tonight I hope.

Thanks for the info Dawger!!!!

Do we know will the air start still be there sunday?

I hope I can try this before Sunday.

Generally the old bomber vets dont lke airstarts so it is up to bomber pilots if they require one. IT wont be a huge airstart as the B29 is very fast and can get to Japan quite quickly. Never forced 75% fuel loads in the previous event so left this up to a bomber decision.

Here we go again-another .CMD that was not public- Gezz. Just like I found out about the .privatearena s3--but you still do not have CVs loaded. Jabo, the rules state minimum 75%fuel--so is it a rule
or not.

It depends on your definition of "public". (I am not defending the situation with dot commands. One of my biggest frustrations is the fact that there is no single source of dot commands) This particular dot command has been thoroughly discussed on the iEN board in several different places.


AND The ACE arena, which is public 24/6, mirrors the S3 FM's so there is no need for the dot command at all. Just go fly a B-29 in the ACE arena.

Last frame, 75% fuel was forced by the arena settings so the rule status pretty much doesn't matter.

I can't say I'm a fan of airstarts in the S3. The least one can expect from pilots when flying in the Squad Select Series is practicing a few take-offs before the event. I can understand though this isn't easy with all the arbitrary fl versions used for offline arenas vs S3 Arena vs Main Arena etc, but that is another discussion since this is decided from the top of Ient.

As Dawger said the ACE arena has the updated flightmodels made by us in the original FM Team, which are also used for the S3's. The Main Arena has rolled back to 2012 flightmodels governed by Wildbills new FM Team.

/Robert
XO 4th FG

Robert, any chance that your mother and/or your father were US Citizens when you were born? If so, please move to USA so I can vote for you for president!!

I vote for NO initial air starts in the S3.