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 Post subject: Re: OH Frame 3 CO AAR
PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:05 am 
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What the Knight fighters pulled off is exactly the set up I and what others have described so it seems we are in agreement in what we need to do for protection. It's not about jock kills, its about being effective. Too close is just as ineffective as too far away. Sortie 2 the fighters that rolled ahead of the bombers had to try and loiter 20 additional minutes, after a prolonged engagement at combat power, and drop tanks were forced off to deal with the initial threat. Having fighters roll at or later than bombers will give the buffs all the effective cover in the world, as in frame 2.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:04 am 
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swanee wrote:
Misson 2 this last Sunday was a different story as we got bounced by a squadron of Zekes from high above us. The difference this time is we lacked the higher cover from other squads that we had the previous missions.


Fuel in the missions we flew with the bombers has never been an issue so far. We roll at the same time as the bombers. We roll with external tank 100% internal.
Keep in mind we haven't had to jettison the external until we were close to target area.
I prefer to burn off the internal first, down to about 85% before switching to external.
Since the bombers fly so slow, we are at about 60% throttle on the ingress and we don't burn through fuel as quickly as in a max climb out.

Both missions I was involved with where we returned to the carrier, I had 20 minutes fuel left, and that was all the way to the target, loitering to help bombers, and rtb.


~S~ Swanee and all the brave KoN fighters. I take full responsibility for sortie 2 losses because I had you guys carry the bombs besides the full fuel load needed.

I really appreciate your fuel management and will swear to the fact that no KON fighter has left the bombers side before we landed!

A huge "hurrah" from all us buffs sir!


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 Post subject: Re: OH Frame 3 CO AAR
PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:56 pm 
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Your mission prep and attention to detail is some of the best in the series.
You do an awesome job and we all appreciate the hard work.
It's a pleasure flying with you and the Mud Movers.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:43 am 
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swanee wrote:
<S> NF
Your mission prep and attention to detail is some of the best in the series.
You do an awesome job and we all appreciate the hard work.
It's a pleasure flying with you and the Mud Movers.



I agree with Swanee!!!!


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