S3 Series

Might I suggest. LA-5s go in ahead and take out ack...
Their 200kg bombs are perfect for ack..
Thier climb rate gives them minimum time to climb over top of ack.
Once ack is dispatched they have blazing speed for retreating from the sight on the deck.
It shouldn 't take more than 3 or 4 planes for an average target.
If planes get in and out within 20 minutes the target area should be clear for the bombers to take down heavy targets.

Id even suggest fighters to nail radar if ack is down. However it took me 6 planes , salvo 2 with delay fuze , to down dar.

Here are some LA-5 attack stats I achieved. First I hit a typical airfield.
RD Radar em. 1800 pts.: salvo 2 - 6 planes. Thats 6,192 pts dropped to kill target. ( something is wrong with em hardness.)
RS Radar sta. 1250 pts. : 2 planes. ok.
ET barracks . 3000 pts : 2 planes. ok.. ...Looks like barracks recorded on chart are way over hardened and someone in sim corrected it to under 2064 pt.
40, parked planes, 88's : 1 plane can take out two with its bombs. dropping one bomb each target.
AD Ammo's....1500 pts : 2 planes ok.
FD Fuel..........400 pts: 3 planes. Thats 3096 pts dropped to kill target. ( something is wrong with fuel hardness ) ( This is a long time problem, they are 55 gallon or bowsers on thier side)
Any farm boy can tell you a couple shots from a high powered rifle would blow them up. The charted hardness seems ok but assigned hardness must be way beyond that on chart.
HG Hangers: 2500 pts: 3 planes. ok.
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Second target was a port.
BB boats.... 1000 pts: two planes: I atribute the extra plane to the target which is pretty difficult to hit dead on. I have from time to time got one with one plane but wouldn't count on it.
CM Cargo...2500 pts : one plane: Figured on 3 planes due to points assigned in chart. However every time I drop on these ships it only takes me one salvo 2 pass to nail them. chart must have pts incorrect.
EF Warehouse. 2750 pts: two planes:
WH Warehouse. 1500 pts: three planes: seems I get the EF with less points than chart requirements and WH buildings are tougher. Suspect chart wrong for WH buildings and they are now set tougher.
EK Refin tank. 1350 pts: one plane. And I mean it realy blew up. Believe chart shows damage stregth way over actual settings.
EX Mline (fort) 2000 pts: two planes
EV light tower 1500 pts : one plane. It should take two planes but only took one.
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Im a very good dive bomber, after all one must learn something over all these years of practice. Taking that in consideration I may take you an extra sortie to take the target down.

I have over time found that dropping bombs in salvo seems to have some sort of pt. multiplier so if you drop salvo and accuratly enough a target that should take a bit more pts than your bombs have will still go down.

The third variable here is that Im doing this off line and it might account for some of the variance and I cant tell you where. Maybe there is a genius out there that can figure the anomalies.

Salute!

'zoo !!?!!

Are you logging in, setting your country and then trying to fly, then going to the same terrain offline without doing anything else?

This normally saves the Donkey's hardness and fuel divisor and DAR and ack and......

Gums....

Gumms
I often just log into off line or go to main areana on line, log back off before going to off line areana. I then select a color opposite of the test target and do air starts over the target to attack. I believe, though its based on assumption (which I hate doing), that the settings of the targets are probably from the main arena which I last flew in.

So your saying im attacking targets at a main specific arena value, correct? I do not know of a more accurate method which is why I gave trailing comment to my data. Wonder if I logged into S3 areana / backed out and went off line I would get more accurate bomb data?

The reference charts are from the current S3 arena tables.

I've publish the data because though in some specific targets it may be different , as a cross section it probably is pretty accurate.

If you have an known, accurate way to test the data to current S3 standard I'd love to hear it.

bluzoo

Salute 'zoo!

Nomads and others have been using the procedure I described for quite a few years to retain the S3 settings.

You can tell from MA by tgt hardess, and you can also check your fuel divisor to make sure you have the S3 setting. Make sure you simply log in, then move offline to the same terrain. It keeps all the colors and such, and you can choose any color you wish. We also like the ack accuracy and altitude numbers compared to MA.

Gums sends...

Its important to remember vis a vis bombs, that although they may be assigned a point valaue damage wise, they are also assigned a radius. Bomb damage value drops over distance til it zero's out at the end of its radius. so if a radius is 200 ft, if you miss by 100 ft your bomb will do approx. half the damage it would do if you had a direct hit, which, doesn't happen very often. So, even by testing you gonna get varied results

My average CAP is as an F16A Viper use to be. 10 mils or less. Others have problem with that not me. Just pretend your a WWII Marine aviator and its easy.
One big problem I have is with ( CB ) "carriers" i.e. ( trucks ). Its being able to differentiate between the bomb holes and the truck after while. Took me 10 sorties of 2 X 100kg, dropped salvo 2 to kill one, thats 20 bomb holes. Try it yourself at field 122. You will be amazed . Thats 10,320 hit points for a truck. I had huts a half block away blowing up from the blast damage of the bombs. But not those ( CB ) trucks (carrier) . Darndest part of it is they are suppose to go down with 200 hit points or just one 100 kg bomb.

This field has an attached RK bridge so no point in fixing the trucks as the field is unclosable anyway.

Thanks gumms for your info. Ill conform to one method as verified and if necessary re do some of these targets like RD DAR EM or CB TRucks (carrier) or FD fuel.

Check jabo's post on frame 1 in the general forum.... we now have a new airframe at our disposal.... P39Q and the Axis has the MC 202 VII.

DAR coverage is 20 miles and in this series, each square is 20 x 20. Muzz would know which fields/towns, etc have DAR.