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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:11 pm 
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Salute!

posted this to get away from the main thread on the subject.

@ Darryl, et al

A few years back we tested the radar range and height in the actual arena by one of us changing sides or having a friendly enemy on line and use ch 100. That's the only way to do it.

We tested the range and the altitude.

Best I recall, range was accurate but the altitude was MSL and not local AGL, so terrain masking was not possible.

We did not have the remote "radar station" then, only the emitter antennas and a small hut next to it.

One base I can see to test this is F84. That way you don't get radar hits from another base. This gives you range and altitude. Then find a base down south where the emitter and "station" are not co-located. Repeat the drill.

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I'm sure they'll pipe up sooner than later, but the existence of two types of radar-emitting objects ("emitter" and "Station") was confirmed by wilz and ohshix through just such an experimental approach in the S3 arena. Wilz selectively destroyed either of those two objects at a variety of bases and watched to see if radar detection of ohshix in-flight was lost. The conclusion was that both types of objects allowed radar coverage. In fact, it has been noted that in some maps, if a field has both types of objects, both need to go down to kill dar coverage from that base. This is apparently a fairly recently change from only having the emitter tower structures being radar-capable.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:16 am 
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TNX, Brush.

Must be a change from those golden days of yesteryear.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:51 am 
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Important to use grnlabels and see if both object types have the emitter code. Mystery solved if so.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:44 am 
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Ground Labels are FxxxRD001 for the Emitters and FxxxRS001 for the Stations


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:47 pm 
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TNX shix

Looks like the "radar stations" have a fiber optic connect to the enema radar grid. They don't emit, but they can get data from whatever is up.

Gotta see the test procedure and set up one that :

- Go to other side and watch from way far away. That dude does not fly. So we need a third troop to nuke the emmiter and radar station. May need to take two hops, but emitter goes first.
- eliminate an emitter that is close to the radar limit we use for the series while our other test pilot is within "x" range of the radar station but not the emitter range. No other emitters within the range we use for the series
- See if the target goes away when the emitter is toast
- We have to have the colored blips and not all the grey ones from both sides

I think that the "radar station" was introduced for the Japan series. I can understand an integrated air defense system with a station getting data from afar, but this stretches my understanding of the tactical scenarios versus a basic strategic series against the LW or IJN.

The mobile dar that the LW had in WW2 was great for point defence. Way ahead of the Brit Chain Home array, which was fixed and did not have great azimuth or altitude capabilities.

see: http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/deflati ... ar-ii.html

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