S3 Series

The point summary states that "close port" is worth 20 points. It also says close radar is worth 10 points.
F1 has 2 separate and distant radar installations attached. Can it be assumed that F1 is worth 40 (20+10+10) points since it won't close without destroying both distinct outlying radar installations.
With so many targets to close F1 one would surely think so.
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I would assume not since some fields have attached radar installations, but there are several radar ony installations that are not fields. Be a hard thing to score only killing radar at port 1 but not the port itself.

Split,
Your question is valid and after analysis my adjudication is as follows:

>> Warbird's field closing parameters only requires certain elements to be destroyed for it to credit a closing. Based on the attached files
damage to the radar is not required to close a field but is to close a radar instillation.

>> Field 1 (closed) is located in an area that is still under Allied control. The pictures attached show that the radar was damaged at F1 and we
can assume that repairs are being done by Allied personal but, based on the rules, will not be completed before the end of the series.

>> The pictures also show that the radar installation was destroyed at F89. By reference to point 2, the radar station, also in
Allied territory, while destroyed is the main focus of repairs and can be reopened but not by the next frame. Therefore, F89 will not be open
for frame two but will be for frame three. I base this ruling on the historical fact that English civilian observer stations created to
supplement the newly developed radar was equally effective in providing early warning to Bomber Command. However, Warbirds has no
ability to create a civilian observer force. The ruling to allow all (Allied and Axis) radar to reopen after a one frame hiatus has been instituted for the MVM series.

>> Unless the parsed log shows that radar is clearly destroyed, no extra points beyond the stated award for closing will be award to either side.

You have enough to do, forget about it. We'll see how it plays out, no worries.

However F1 was not closed during frame 1. We are going to attempt closure of F1 frame 2.
I do see in game that the 2 separate dar installations ARE connected to f1 though, which means it won't close in the buffer unless they are destroyed as well. It seems that you are saying that if we destroy all needed objects at the actual port you will rule F1 closed and IF we destroy radar connected to that location you will rule them closed for one frame.

Sorry for the questions with the workload you already have.
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Clarification on Radar Installation vs Field Radar Objects

No once a radar attached to any field is closed it is closed for good and the radar points awarded for a radar closure will be added to the field score. Therefore, closure of F1 with the radars destroyed will be more; 20 points plus 10 points for each radar sites associated to that field. I have since found that a single object destroyed may possibly be restored (.restoreob <ground object #). However, I don't know if I can do that if the site is closed under the closure rules of effected field. If I had know this was possible yesterday, I would have included field radars under the 'one frame hiatus' that I ruled yesterday would applied to single radar installations. Any error here in this ruling must be caulked up to my ignorance of all that is amazing program is able to do. I am learning and will improve .

So, to simply all my jabber:
1. If a radar object is attached to a field and is destroyed when the field is closed, radar closure points are added to the field closure
points.
2. Radar objects closed with the field will be closed for the remainder of the MVM series.

3. Radar installations closed will only remain closed for the following frame. Once that closed tenure is complete they will reopen.
(Which means you could get points again for re-closing them).

Split, you will have to forgive my somewhat legalistic processes. I was a secondary and high education teacher/professor for 40 years. I have learned for every rule I have instituted for classroom management, there was always a student who found the loophole.
For that reason I try to make sure what I decided has as few opportunities to 'game' the system as possible.

You inquiry was not an attempt to game the system and addressing it has made me wiser.... for that Thank you!

I hope you are enjoying the game and as a side note, I know now that if I am ever involved in a similar series (bob type) I will not let field object radars to remain closed for the full series but I will not go back on what I have stated. The Allies will just have to live with it.

Kaceyj,
Appreciate the clarification and I agree with it...like that even matters!

Got a good chuckle out of this---> there was always a student who found the loophole.

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