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 Post subject: MOL Frame 4 Preparation
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:10 pm 
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In general, the Germans are getting out of Dodge. The fight will move to "over-Channel" or "over-the-Continent".

Ideas for Frame 4 are solicited, as are request for Squad rides.

A TeamSpeak Conference on the WarBirds 352nd FG, 487th Fighter Squadron frequency is scheduled for Thursday evening at 5:30 PM Pacific, 8:30 PM Eastern. COs and Flight Planners for the various Squads are encouraged to attend to share ideas/requests for Frame 4. Ideas on what to do with Hurricane aircraft which are required to lift with ord are solicited. Nobody is going to be ordered to attack a ship, but volunteer Squads are welcome to, and can expect that request to be honored. It "could be" that all Squads are better off in Spitfires as no mechanized enemy units remain to be attacked.

It would appear that some AI ship battle may occur in the Channel. Pilots are encouraged to DISREGARD any part of that which may be observed on the visual as the result of any AI action is, obviously, predetermined and nothing you may do will effect the outcome.

JABO: Do all F-1 structures rebuild?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:21 pm 
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If you want to bomb Axis shipping, the pilots must not use dfuse as the bombs will sink through the ship into the water before they explode causing no damage.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:33 am 
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can wellingtons be made to attack shipping?


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They do carry torps, or at least they did once upon a time.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:12 am 
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-fooo- wrote:
can wellingtons be made to attack shipping?



16 Wellis for about 9 DDs.

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Do they have to be static ships ? will the AI look for closest target (even moving) near an attack waypoint?


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-fooo- wrote:
Do they have to be static ships ? will the AI look for closest target (even moving) near an attack waypoint?


These were not static ships. It was a routine of 16 DD2s and 16 Wellis took down about 9 but they all died. I believe it will attack anything that's around. I will try out the KAGA and freighters as well.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:44 am 
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Welli is 1 pt. Ships like that are 6

Dewolf - sorry I will notbe able to attend your discussion. I have a work event to attend.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:36 am 
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Roj. COs, XOs, Flight Planners welcome to kick around ideas before committing "ideas" to "Orders".

Just a note for general consumption:
From the furthest-away likely Bf 109 base they can be over F-1 at 23 thousand feet in 12 minutes from T=0. Any intermediate shipping would be covered sooner.
In a test flight from F-51, upon arrival at F-1, there was still 80 minutes of fuel remaining in a BF 109 at unwepped power.
Whether or not F-1 can be used to refuel and rearm, or as an initial base during the evacuation is yet to be revealed. We need to learn what services " all but a small rearguard is taken off English soil" are able to offer. We did kill the Refinery, but if they can get their airplanes to run on oil alone, they've got plenty.

F-9 to F-1 --- 26 miles
F-52 to F-1 --- 26 miles
F-51 to F-1 --- 38 miles
F-54 to F-1 --- 20 miles

Defense of London and the surrounding airfields could be offered in at least a couple of ways
CAP over AI Strikes sent after the Channel Shipping. Then when the bad guys get damaged THEY can make it home, but our guys can't. The AIs all die, but they might get points.
BARCAP on a line described by our closed airfields nearer the open airfields and the London area. Then when Allied Aircraft are damaged our guys can make it home, but the LW can't unless they can use F-1. A BARCAP in that area just might give our fighters a shot at the Ju 88s "on the way in" and "on the way out" if necessary.

What to do with the AIs is an open question. We have to run at least one mission with them. If F-1's targets rebuild, the possible points there are interesting for the AIs. How, where, and how many DDs running interference for the "evacuation" remains to be seen. (The script is not running in the Arena) Wether or not the shipping will take "pinwheel" avoidance tactics remains to be seen. Attacks by our AIs over the Channel would require significant fighter cover which would detract from the ability to defend London and the remaining airfields. Keep in mind, we are attempting to defend England with approx. 25 airplanes.

Lots of stuff to consider. Input from the guys who have to do the job is always interesting prior to preparing Orders.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:52 pm 
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F1 is open and operational. There will be static and moving AI in the Dover area. The destroyer screens will be moving fast and shooting hard.


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