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 Post subject: Frame 5 Orders
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:42 am 
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Squatchy will be CO for Frame 5 and Boinked is co-CO getting his feet wet!

Switch back it is guys. Noflys need your Email so squatch can send the DTF map to you.

Buffs you guys have field F1 for this mission and target will be 32 as requested. We will let the AIs push out front. Fighters lets see what the LW does I would love the fight to be over the channel but not so sure they will go for it. So with that said as the AIs make it across we are going to send the 4th and 352nd out front just to put the press on the LW to get the attention then drag back west where we will setup and Hammer with the rest of us. They wont have to long to stick around due to fuel. Our Buffs should be heading back East to target and we will pick them up and finish the escort while the 4th goes and refuels them big jugs. Any suggestions is welcome.

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352nd = P-51B @ F107
4th = P-47 @ F106
23rd = P-51B @ F100
Knights = P-51B @ F100

<S> and lets have some fun


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23rd Fighter Group

Hitman


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 Post subject: Re: Frame 5 Orders
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:03 am 
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email with the pic of the proposed B17 route sent to noflyz. I'm 10 thumbs when it comes to DTF's so it's in his capable hands :D


Sasquatch"
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"You know you loaded too much fuel only when you see fire" :P


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 Post subject: Re: Frame 5 Orders
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:31 pm 
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Squatchy will be CO for Frame 5 and Boinked is co-CO getting his feet wet! Oh NO we're all going to die! :lol:

When do we lift off?

Good luck all and I agree, let's just have some fun.

<S>


Capt Hawk
CO - The Knights Who Say Ni!


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 Post subject: Re: Frame 5 Orders
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:47 pm 
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~S~ =sqtc=

Your timings were flying out of F110 correct? Since we have been assigned F1 I'll make the route such that we hit your 42 and 56 minute mark on time and alt. (I think at 42 minutes we will not be quite 26K probably 24k)

What will be our start time? Jabo has agreed to run 3 AI groups to 2 additional targets. When do we want the AI to launch?


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 Post subject: Re: Frame 5 Orders
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:31 pm 
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noflyz wrote:
~S~ =sqtc=

Your timings were flying out of F110 correct? Since we have been assigned F1 I'll make the route such that we hit your 42 and 56 minute mark on time and alt. (I think at 42 minutes we will not be quite 26K probably 24k)

What will be our start time? Jabo has agreed to run 3 AI groups to 2 additional targets. When do we want the AI to launch?


Actually, all the time hacks were out of F100, SP2. I would like a 10min headstart so you guys can get @WP1 and be on the route grabbing east. The AI's should not go until about T+12 (I have you guys at M5 @32:00 after takeoff. The idea is the LW will see 3 groups heading east and then, 1 will double back and go off dar. They then have a choice...intercept 1 or both of the AI groups (using fuel & ammo) or go looking for you guys off the dar...either way, it gives the allied fighters a chance to get an upper hand away from the LW airfields. At the very worse, it spreads out the scouts and takes valuable time that you can use when you go barreling in :mrgreen: Bomber targets are at the leads discretion..I'd like to see 40 finished off and any other targets you think you can hammer with 1K babies :D

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F100 Bombers and KoN fighters
P-51B @ F107 =352nd
P-47D-22 @ F106 = 4th
P-51B @ F101 = 23rd


Takeoff for Bombers is T -22, please be timely or you will have a hard time catching up

Pony squads, I recommend you burn internal fuel to @70-75% giving you a bit more agility vs the scouts and especially later in the frame. The main focus is to get the Fortresses to target and home but if you have contact with a larger group of LW and can force them down having the advantage (especially with part of your strength) , feel free to prosecute with prejudice. Barcap baby! :mrgreen:

Juggernaughts, you are free to lift sans droptanks and climb like airsick angels to @ the bombers initial entry on LW dar. Seek and destroy any scouts you see and come as far east as fuel/ammo allow. We will more than likely need your help for reception escort as well.

Guys, I'm sure the LW might see thru the deception (they can't be coming at us on the same route again??) but I'm hoping by runing them around a bit since they have to check to be sure, we can close in and overfly them while they are critical fuel and get a shot at flattening some more german terrain. At the least, have some FUN while we are doing it!
:mrgreen:

I want to keep this post as the final (final) orders so any changes will be hi-lighted in red
(I hate searching for final posts for orders) :D

feel free to add any comments or point out any blatant "doh's" (besides my horrendous typing).

btw,don't worry hawk, we will not let the LW borrow the /.hawk finder :twisted:


Sasquatch"
=sqtc=
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"You know you loaded too much fuel only when you see fire" :P


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 Post subject: Re: Frame 5 Orders
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:56 pm 
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Ok This is what the doctor ordered, only change is that the line is drawn to actually get to the correct target :mrgreen:

DTF is here

Looks like this, White line initial and double back, Green Line to target Red line out. About 202minutes in all. Must get out T+22 or earlier.

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And finally here's the target 32. We will approach West to East.


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Field : 100 SP 2
Fuel : 65% - 1807 Gallons
Load out : 6x 1000lbs
CS : 135 (I know, sounds too low, but this is what =sqtc= flew and I flew 155 and came within the sub minute. Lets see how it feels)


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:03 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Frame 5 Orders
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:35 pm 
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Please confirm that the P-51B squads have ONE launch at T=0 and are up for the duration.


Happy trails...
Wolf
XO 352nd Fighter Group (virtual)

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 Post subject: Re: Frame 5 Orders
PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:05 pm 
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Noflyz,

Thanks for doing the hacks for us! Here is what I need to send to the guys

Type of Aircraft
Take off time
Loadout
Fuel
Field take off
Spawn point


Ni!


Capt Hawk
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:52 am 
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Looks great noflyz, ty much! Confirmed on the Ponies, any need for early rtb can use the airstart that jabo will enable after frame in underway.
I want the LW to see so much clutter on the dar with the AI groups, fighters scrambling around for placement and our human Bomber group that they just will not know what is live....and what is memorex.
:mrgreen:


Sasquatch"
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"You know you loaded too much fuel only when you see fire" :P


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