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BBD Frame #1 Final Orders
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Author:  MuskieZZ [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  BBD Frame #1 Final Orders
Final Orders for Frame 1
I will be traveling later today until Sunday so will not have much access to the forums. Doesn’t seem like anyone has any real problems with the preliminary so we will finalize that.

Buff’s:
Buff Group #1 – Knights - Field F110
B17G, (6) 1000lb, 70% Fuel, 1 wingman
Buff Group #2 – UMM & NS - Field F6
B17G, (6) 1000lb, 70% Fuel, 1 wingman

All Buff’s up at T-20, go to wp1/21 and WEP1 climb at CS135
Buff Group #1 target is 33
Buff Group #2 target is 28

Fighters: (squad choice of aircraft)
Knight Fighters – F108 (orange line)
352nd – F107 (red line)
23rd – F100 (blue line)
4th – F106 (pink line)

Knights Fighters / 352nd - Initial Escort
Stay off DAR as long as possible (hopefully after T+24) and meet the buffs at m2. Escort as long as possible.

Then RTB and up to meet returning buffs.

23rd - mid escort/diversion
Enter DAR on the south at or before T+15! Head in south and head north to the buffs. Meet at wp3/25 by T+55. Escort as long as possible.

Then RTB and up to meet returning buffs.

4th - Deep Escort
Don't engage (keep drop tanks) as long as possible. Meet the Buffs over Berlin at T+75. Escort/cover as long as possible.


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Here is the latest dtf with the merge points on it and smaller loops:
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hopefully noflyz will modify this to include the additional data.

Good luck all! These are always exciting series. should be a lot of cool videos after the frame. :D
Author:  dewolf [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BBD Frame #1 Final Orders
In 180 minute Frame time, when do the buffs land?
Author:  Gums [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BBD Frame #1 Final Orders and fuel for buffs
Salute!

Wolf asks a good question.

Second, 70% fuel seems a bit high for the buffs, but guess we are soldiers.

Plan looks good and we should do O.K. if we have good form and the escorts do well.

I see a classic dragged out survival scenario, but should be a challenge and even fun to try.

Gums sends...
Author:  noflyz [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BBD Frame #1 Final Orders
MuskieZZ wrote:

hopefully noflyz will modify this to include the additional data.

Good luck all! These are always exciting series. should be a lot of cool videos after the frame. :D


Fighter routes and bomber angles and distances included.

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Author:  noflyz [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BBD Frame #1 Final Orders
dewolf wrote:
In 180 minute Frame time, when do the buffs land?


For a T-20 start

Group 1 will land T+160
Group 2 will land T+145

In reality Group 1 will be a little faster due to only climbing out to 24K as opposed to 26 for group 2.
Author:  noflyz [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BBD Frame #1 Final Orders
Target picture for T28 - Bomber Group 2 Targets.

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Author:  Robert [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BBD Frame #1 Final Orders
This page always works for me sir:
http://postimage.org/
Author:  Hawk [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BBD Frame #1 Final Orders
Nice!

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Author:  noflyz [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BBD Frame #1 Final Orders
noflyz wrote:
dewolf wrote:
In 180 minute Frame time, when do the buffs land?


For a T-20 start

Group 1 will land T+160
Group 2 will land T+145

In reality Group 1 will be a little faster due to only climbing out to 24K as opposed to 26 for group 2.

Ran the route after the arena was unlocked. It seems the fuel div is set to .75 with is. Group 2 route was flown in 159 minutes.

So for a T-20 start we will land at T+139.

Group 1 should be equivalently shorter. So all good news I guess :-)
Author:  Robert [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BBD Frame #1 Final Orders
P-47D-22 fuel time at various throttle settings with droptanks:
100%: 101 min
90%: 112 min
80%: 126 min
70%: 144 min
60%: 168 min

/Robert
4th FG
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