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 Post subject: Preliminary Frame 4
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:22 am 
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Preliminary Frame 4

Assuming 32 and 19 closed.
Assuming 34-35 etc would be next best targets.

Assuming that possible coastal Radar may need be destroyed again to blind.
If so then we hit radar noe extremely fast first sortie. All fighters and bombers go to kill dar.
After buffs return home fighters go to north 34-35 to engage probable incoming enemy.

Because buffs safe fighters let enemy follow to water and engage there.
As this occurs buffs rearm and go after targets best for buffs (buff call). If 34-35 then buffs get up and climb over france and wait for fighter to rearm.

If other targets more north then buffs can go around and head up in small groups.

Thoughts only , give your thoughts and alterations

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 Post subject: Re: Preliminary Frame 4
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:31 am 

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From what kaceyj told me, my understanding on radar is...

Any radar location that is ruled closed, stays closed for one more frame and then rebuilds. UNLESS the radar facilities are connected to an actual airfield AND that airfield was ruled closed, in which case the radar stays down for the rest of the series as does the airfield.

So the radars we killed in frame 2 will be rebuilt this frame. I think 89 is the only 'coastal' radar that will be down. One oddity I see is that 38 has a radar station but no tower/emitter, that radar reaches within 1 mile of F1 if functional without an emitter or towers. To get any meaningful use of destroyed radars, besides the 10 points for closure, we will need to close 78 and hit ALL towers and radar stations at both sites tied to F1. Did we close 68 this past frame or was that frame 2? If frame 3 it will be down and we are off their radar until we hit F1 area... After all the above is done.

Our intelligence officer oshix leads us to believe they had radar functioning at F1 last frame, via a script that he runs,fwiw. Yes F1 was manually closed before frame start, but as sleepy said...we can see in the buffer when a field is closed manually, but apparently the buffer doesn't show manual rebuilds or re-opening. oshix's script said F1 dar was up at some point into the frame.
Disclaimer: he is pretty good at writing these things but stuff happens like tweaking the maps that can cause problems. I could be missing something as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Preliminary Frame 4
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:11 pm 
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Understood.
Obviously we will want to hit radars as we get points and hopefully blinding enemy.
Therefore plan would be to attack known open radar installations.

I am unable to calculate whinch so we go with consensus right or wrong.
Go with suggestions.

Fighters will go to north of targets and engage enemy then come back toward channel as buffs signal they are RTB.

Second sorties will be on probable 34-35 areas. Fighters push first then buff in.
Numbers plus extended distances and times will make this very difficult.

Go with suggestions , otherwise we are going to be on the fly up to near T-0

Juice


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 Post subject: Re: Preliminary Frame 4
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:41 pm 
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Do you want to utilize buffs for radar removal or utilize jabo attacks?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:49 am 
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The ugly DAR picture with all fields open. If given the closure status I can adjust the picture.


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 Post subject: Re: Preliminary Frame 4
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:52 am 

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-tmoa- wrote:
Do you want to utilize buffs for radar removal or utilize jabo attacks?
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May I suggest that those who jabo be aware of what the ack situation is at the target so as not to lose airframes to it.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:22 pm 
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I don't disagree, the AAA has been brutal.

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 Post subject: Re: Preliminary Frame 4
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:36 pm 
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Buffs would be me knee jerk.

Main thrust would be my ignorance of ack issues, and need for best practice according to the buff/Jabos.

Main goal would be to eliminate radar quickly and blind enemy to our deeper attacks later.

Probable a pipe dream in any event.

Juice


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