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 Post subject: PP Frame 1 Orders
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:47 am 
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PP Frame 1 Orders
OK, let’s keep this simple. We know the 475th will push to have a big wing of fighters so we will have to match them.

Changes is red


Basing:
Buffs:
The Knights That Say Ni / 69th CG (Buffs and fighters) – F34
Nomads(22nd,305th,AG-8) – F34
United Mud Movers(UMM) – F34

Fighters:
4th FG – F36
352nd FG – F36
Luftflotte 6(JG51/JG77/TK) – F78

Strike:
Night Stalkers – F110

Sortie #1 – F138 (Blue Line)
Fighters up at T+0 and Buffs up at T+5. 4th and 352nd with drop tanks and LF-6 with bombs. We want full escort the entire way. 4th Front and Above, 352nd front and LF6 Front and lower.
Buff ingress at 12.5K’. LF-6 drop high on ack at 138 AND 140.

Night Stalkers will up after the Buff's approach F114 and follow up and kill anything left up.

Sortie #2 – F117 (Green Line)
We will have to call when the buff’s can up. Fighters escort if possible.

Stalkers will attack ships by F138

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If we are not engaged on the attack to F138, I expect the fighters to brake east and hit the B25’s. The 475th always go to a box and don’t close escort buff’s. They don’t think that works. After we see the 1st wave head north, fighters will come up behind them and look for the buffs.
If we are engaged, we need the fighters to protect the Buff's until clear.

Note to buffs: if we don't have air superiority by sortie 2 expect to hit ships instead with torps. So practice please.


Get the DTF here:
Attachment:
PP1.dtf [805 Bytes]
Downloaded 122 times


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 Post subject: Re: PP Frame 1 Orders
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:00 am 
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Nice plan Muskie. I think I forgot to give the Nightstalkers the He111 as well. So you can factor that in your plans to. MC200 should be good for static ships He111 may be good for moving ships with its torps and AI.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:29 am 
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Nice plan sir, what is the mission time? The C.200 can run for:
(100% throttle, 0.75 fuel multiplier)
* 55 minutes at internals
* 115 minutes with droptanks


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:38 pm 
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I am hoping Hawk can run the dtf. I am out of town with no way to fly it.
I am guessing (and purely a guess at this point) that bombs should drop at t+35

If someone can fly this and let me know it will be greatly appritiated.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:20 pm 
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Muskizz,

I'll get on the DTFs today.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:49 pm 
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Once again, here is the problem using the combined arms setting. DTFs do not work!!!! They disappear after loading...

Another problem is, there is no way to test things off line. Once again, there is no CA that is available for us to test with S3 settings. This is going to be yet another frustrating series for us bombers.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:10 pm 
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The S3 Arena is available from the "standard" drop down menu. The bomber option for entry is present. I am personally wholly unaware of any Combined Arms commands, so I can't tell you IF any of them happen to work. You could see IF they do. IF they do, you could quit the S3 Arena and go to Offline Play and "most" of your settings would be saved to the Offline. However be aware that the current FUELDIV will give you a "generous" idea of your fuel burn as it is set at a FUELDIV of O.80 and not 0.75.
There is no available C200 for the fighter guys to test in the Arena.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:30 pm 
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Easy:
* Just enter the S3 arena, then exit it.
* Now go to offline mode, choose the Greece map, and all fueldiv settings etc should have been carried over.
* You can now fly offline under S3 conditions.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:58 pm 
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OK, now I get it to work after trying for an hour.

Still, DTF file doesn't work while using the CA arena.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:09 am 
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Robert wrote:
Easy:
* Just enter the S3 arena, then exit it.
* Now go to offline mode, choose the Greece map, and all fueldiv settings etc should have been carried over.
* You can now fly offline under S3 conditions.


Past experience tells most that ALL settings do not transfer. Previously critical among those was that the Offline Arena required more damage per target than did the S3 arena. Whatever "Arena" settings happen to be are more than occasionally different in different Arenas.


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