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Author: | fencer7 [ Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MoB Fighter Comparison |
When will WBs include G-suits and the K14 gun sights in Allied planes? Or even include the use of 150 octane fuel. All advantages the Allies had but are always ignored or dismissed. If the desire for realism is the goal of WBs then these are things that should be include. Fencer |
Author: | Robert [ Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: MoB Fighter Comparison |
<S> Fencer, sir! Unfortunately there is no code that allows us to model G-suits atm. I can ask Dan if it would be possible to set pilot G-tolerance per plane, or introduce K14 gunsights. This would require new game code to be written. * The P-51D is already modeled with 150 grade (100/150) fuel, allowing it a manifold pressure of 72" Hg at WEP, instead of a MAP of 67" Hg. With the next update the P-51D will also be able to run at Military power (Bst1, 61" Hg) for 25 minutes before overheating, since the current 15 minutes Military power limit from the manuals applies to the lower quality 100/130 fuel. * The P-38 was discussed thoroughly but decided to not use the 100/150 fuel. This since such fuel wasn't available for the majority of it's time in the war, and the P-38 units only recieved this fuel right as their rides were replaced by P-51's in 1944. In the Pacific theather the P-38's didn't use 100/150 fuel. * The F4U-4 is already using it's best manifold pressure at 60" Hg with 115/145 fuel and water injection, producing 2435 horsepowers at the deck. A higher MAP of 70" Hg wasn't introduced until late 1946 when the Corsair recieved the improved R-2800-42W engine. * The P-47D is currently being discussed by the FM Team, and it is possible it will be given the 44-1 fuel (150 grade) with the next update. There are several players strongly opposing to do any changes to the S3 planes during a series, so this update would have to be done after this S3 series. With 44-1 fuel the Thunderbolt can use 70-72" Hg of manifold pressure instead of 65" Hg, and with the 44-1 fuel it's top speed will even be a few mph faster than the P-51D above 15000 ft, according to available flight trial data. The 9th AF only used 100/130 fuel for it's Jugs, but in the 8th AF, stationed in Britain, it seems that 100/150 fuel was of widespread use among P-47 units since early 1944. Here is a link to flight tests conducted with 44-1 fuel for the P-47D, using a MAP of 70" Hg. http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/ ... 26167.html Here is an excert from an interesting interview with Robert Johnson, pilot of the 8th AF. Another thing that is often forgotten is that most 8th AF groups were operating their planes over boosted. P47 groups were getting P47M performance out of many of their planes in late 43' through 44': 56thFG Robert Johnson's P47 As to the speed of his P-47; Pratt & Whitney tech reps were largely responsible for giving Gould the secrets of horsepower production in the R-2800. Engines with the same wastegate modifications were tested at P&W and produced in excess of 2,700 hp on the dynometer, and did so for hundreds of hours at full throttle. The later "C" series R-2800 (used in the P-47M and N) generated 3,600 hp during similar endurance testing. It should not be a surprise that a P-47D-5-RE should attain similar speeds to the P-47M with 2,800 hp with slightly greater drag. Gould also filled all gaps in seams and waxed Johnson's Jug to reduce parasite drag. By the Spring of 1944, there wasn't a P-47 in the 56th that hadn't been field modified like Johnson's. Ask any of the surviving crew chiefs. When 150 octane fuel became available in early '44, 72" MAP became the standard for combat operations. While this setting was never incorporated into the standard issue pilot's manual, it is easily found in 8th AF Fighter Command technical bulletins and operational instructions. <S> /Robert |
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