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swanee
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:22 am |
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Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:23 pm Posts: 180 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Yep, from Allied point of view, guns on Fokker really weak. We were hitting the 109 solid from D1 - D3 with no real effect. Granted Fokker only has 4 303s. Traded bullets with a few 109s low, and the only one that got killed in our skirmish was one that augured behind me. My Fokker was taking a lot of hits, and I ended up auguring after losing flaps and trying to turn tight when low. Not sure if I stayed up how much more she would have taken.
As for the LW guns vs the Fokker, I know in the main they are very hard to bring down with just about any type of gun. They are tough birds. Not sure if setting is same in S3
It is noteworthy, however, that 2 of our guys did get killed very quickly when we got bounced over 58. One was killed before they could even scream on the radio. PK perhaps.
Swanee ---------------------------------------- There are 2 kinds of people in this world... Fighter pilots – and those that wish they were.
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Jman
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:53 am |
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Joined: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:45 am Posts: 131
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Rifle caliber MGs were replaced for a reason... ![Image](http://i.imgur.com/r6RClsI.jpg) Do-17 that made it home with over 200 hits from .303... Hit the engines or the pilot when using the pea shooters...that's about it....
352nd Fighter Group (V) - "The Blue Nosed Bastards of Bodney" 328th Fighter Squadron C.O. (V) - PE - Red and Green
dulce bellum inexpertis
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Juice=
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:41 pm |
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Joined: Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:27 am Posts: 394
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(Just because most of you guys expect me to say it)
ALL guns work at D1. In the case of the Fokker they work better at D.5.
Converge at 165 or so, and act like you are at a sewing machine stitching the wing root or stitching a circle around the head in the cockpit or such. If the stitch does not complete the line or circle, I expect nothing. Problem is, it takes about 1.5 seconds to complete a stitch, and, to be D.5 to D1 when you do it.
So as you guys know, waiting for the right time to go fangs out is critical, picking your spot or calling your shot then others hitting the same spot is very useful.
To get a kill, you leave yourself vulnerable during all that time in the early war sets.
To me, its a ton of fun though.
A pleasure Gentlemen,
Juice
352nd Fighter Group C.O. (V) - "The Blue Nosed Bastards of Bodney" 487th Fighter Squadron (V)-HO 486th Fighter Squadron (V)-PZ 328th Fighter Squadron (V)-PE We have the whips - KILL THEM ALL
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Gums
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:22 pm |
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Joined: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:00 pm Posts: 672 Location: Florida
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Salute! Horrido!
I like that pic as well, Jman.
More than one of us in the sim have seen .30 cal stuff used in places other than a forest when hunting deer,
From personal experience, one day I took 40 - 50 - 60 rounds of 7.62 in my A-37 and "only" thing they did was cause a massive fuel leak. If a few were were just 6 inches away from the main fuel line to my fuse tank I would have had a good day. My flight lead got hit, as well, and one was a 12.7 ( read .50 cal) that was not API, and it blew a 4 or 5 inch hole thru the upper wing skin and missed his wing tanks.
Bear in mind that the folks shooting were only 200 -300 feet below me and had a "zero deflection" shot. Basic spray and pray as I dropped nape and CBU on them.
So I agree that unless you have a half-dozen deer rifles firing at a high rate and within 500 or 6oo feet you are p$ssing in the wind. Our A-37 7.62 minigun was so bad we could not use the standard "foul line" at the range because the bullets were too slow to register on the acoustic mikes. We had to shoot within 1200 feet or so, and our normal speed was about 250 - 300 knots added to the speed of the round at launch. Sucker slowed down real fast and had maybe 10 or so feet of drop at 1200 feel slant range. Damn things were so slow that some of the tracers would stick in the plywood panels or the posts and cause the tgt to burn down! There went a great score, huh?
Regardless, we have to use the guns they had and do our best to model them and also work on our basic gunnery, ya think?
Gums sends...
"God in your guts, good men at your back, wings that stay on - and Tally Ho!"
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