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No defensive fire from bombers
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Author:  Madcat [ Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  No defensive fire from bombers

I’m trying to put this into context with what I’m seeing on my end.
I’m not complaining nor trying to start a flame war.
What I’m observing.
• No return/defensive fire from any of the bombers.
Not even the manned bombers.
Unless the gunners were dropped to save weight we should se if we can work that out.
I like getting kills the same as any other player, I don’t like having an unfair advantage.
Can we get confirmation from the TBF drivers as to whether or not their defensive guns were in fact firing?

Can anyone else confirm wether or not thy saw any defensive fire from any of the bombers on either side?

• Weird lag.
I use my ACMCAM to see who is laggy and who isn’t.
In the first encounter on the shores of Japan I saw only a couple of N1Ks (manned) that seemed to shift fore and aft.
During the JU88 kamikaze runs ALL of the bombers shifted fore and aft. AIs and player manned.
Am I incorrect in thinking that ACMCAM shows lag when the aircraft move fore and aft like that?

Author:  dawger [ Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No defensive fire from bombers

Madcat wrote:
I’m trying to put this into context with what I’m seeing on my end.
I’m not complaining nor trying to start a flame war.
What I’m observing.
• No return/defensive fire from any of the bombers.
Not even the manned bombers.
Unless the gunners were dropped to save weight we should se if we can work that out.
I like getting kills the same as any other player, I don’t like having an unfair advantage.
Can we get confirmation from the TBF drivers as to whether or not their defensive guns were in fact firing?

Can anyone else confirm wether or not thy saw any defensive fire from any of the bombers on either side?

• Weird lag.
I use my ACMCAM to see who is laggy and who isn’t.
In the first encounter on the shores of Japan I saw only a couple of N1Ks (manned) that seemed to shift fore and aft.
During the JU88 kamikaze runs ALL of the bombers shifted fore and aft. AIs and player manned.
Am I incorrect in thinking that ACMCAM shows lag when the aircraft move fore and aft like that?


If everyone appears laggy, YOU are the culprit. So you confirmed your laggy connect. Congrats :)

Author:  =dobs= [ Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No defensive fire from bombers

Had a TBF shoot at me....whether it was pilot (NOE) or Gunner can't say.

As far as the lag goes, maybe it was the number of aircraft in the view at once that ACMCAM (not the best software ever written, but could be the worst!) has trouble with...something in how it updates.

Author:  Madcat [ Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No defensive fire from bombers

dawger wrote:
If everyone appears laggy, YOU are the culprit. So you confirmed your laggy connect. Congrats :)

Quite possible, but what I saw in the first engagement and the last engagement indicates rock steady on my end.
First engagement, we had somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 players in close proximity.
Pretty much the same for the CV battle but there was the addition of ships.
It was only the 2nd engagement at the CVs that appeared that way on ACMCAM.
Maybe Dobs is correct?
ACMCAM is not the best way to view it?

Dobs, if you only had one gun from the formation shooting at you then I'd have to say it was a human.
The question is whether or not the whole formation of TBFs was rattling away at you.

So we have confirmation of one TBFS defensive guns working but not the JU88s?
Anyway to look into it before the next frame?

Author:  Hawk [ Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No defensive fire from bombers

My guns on my Ju-88 and G4M1 worked perfect.

Author:  jabo [ Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No defensive fire from bombers

Saw several hogs go down to the 20mm tail gun of the G4M1 in the Kamikaze attack. It packs a big wallop at close range. Missed the TBF attack so cannot comment on the gunner fire.

Author:  dawger [ Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No defensive fire from bombers

Madcat wrote:
dawger wrote:
If everyone appears laggy, YOU are the culprit. So you confirmed your laggy connect. Congrats :)

Quite possible, but what I saw in the first engagement and the last engagement indicates rock steady on my end.
First engagement, we had somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 players in close proximity.
Pretty much the same for the CV battle but there was the addition of ships.
It was only the 2nd engagement at the CVs that appeared that way on ACMCAM.
Maybe Dobs is correct?
ACMCAM is not the best way to view it?

Dobs, if you only had one gun from the formation shooting at you then I'd have to say it was a human.
The question is whether or not the whole formation of TBFs was rattling away at you.

So we have confirmation of one TBFS defensive guns working but not the JU88s?
Anyway to look into it before the next frame?


ACMCAM is very bad for any resemblance to events as perceived by the players. I suspect it is a very accurate representation of what ACTUALLY is happening.

Author:  Jugggo [ Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No defensive fire from bombers

Food for thought,.. What if only those that login as s3 bombers have their Ottos working fine and the ones that are fighters login in normal and they don't work. Mine called bandit but never fired. Also I selected wingman and never launched with me. So that is one known problem I guess.

Author:  Hawk [ Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No defensive fire from bombers

Our otto was set to off on take off. Do a Ctrl-T to turn it on.

Author:  Jugggo [ Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No defensive fire from bombers

Did that to make sure ;)

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